Badthing is one of those people. Though I do not agree with her, I love commenting on her posts, and I like to read her replies too.
One of her recent posts got a massive amount of replies, a lot of them from "awalk", a typical "I use big words, so I'm more credible than the next person" gun grabber.
So, at the end of over 170 responses, she sais:
- have a feeling this thread has seen its day. I do want to offer some advice.
Keep pressure on pro-gun....do not let them wiggle out. Stay on the topic of weapons...endlessly.
Also frame the debate as a full topic covering weapons both large and small. Do not allow them to sink FURTHER into systemic causations making debate harder. The reason why systemic causations are so deadly is that they are hard to address! So when they give very weak causations, drive them back into a debate covering a wide range of weapons.
They will endlessly - ENDLESSLY- seek to run for weaker causations….so just framing the debate might take DAYS….heck, weeks. Once they have accepted your frame……fire at will at targets in the open.
Also frame your debate in terms of freedom and rights. For example, arms control is an embrace of the citizen’s right to address their tools when the tools are a method of harm.
They will eventually break and come out with some of the most freakish things on this planet.
Also pro-gun supporters often debate in a very structured manner(think armored tank) They endlessly use the same terminology and the same jingoisms, so to speak. For example, how many times have you heard, “guns don’t kill…people kill” or a similar phrase?
Or the term "Law abiding?"
New outlooks, terms or methods of debate really hinders their ability (think flexible fast tank killer) For example, the word “causation” really freaks them out. They have not come up with a collective jingoism to address “causation” as of yet. They basically do not know how to handle the term.
What is a systemic causation?….read the book “Whose Freedom” If you get the book, you will understand the thinking of conservatives on a very fundamental level.
Or you can email and I will send you a short rendering.
Good day all……I am off to the wild blue.
I likely will not be back....I just want to straighten a few things out...and defend a peson who I think is kind hearted.
best wishes....peace always.
- Keep pressure on pro-gun....do not let them wiggle out. (...) Good day all……I am off to the wild blue. I likely will not be back
- For example, the word “causation” really freaks them out.
This is what you're up against: bigoted people who look down upon you as uneducated, single minded fools who know nothing else but to repeat NRA mantras.